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Final Hometown Debate discusses delivery of medical services

Panelists at the final 2019 N.C. IOPL Hometown Debate Thursday, Oct. 17, in Henderson were, from left, Rep. Donna White, R-Johnston; Rep. Terry Garrison, D-Vance; moderator Loretta Boniti of Spectrum News; Greg Griggs of the Academy of Family Physicians; and Jordan Roberts, health care policy analyst at the John Locke Foundation.
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HENDERSON — The North Carolina Institute of Political Leadership’s Hometown Debate Series concluded Thursday, Oct. 17, in Henderson, as legislators and policy advocates debated the delivery of medical services.

Panelists also addressed topics from the three earlier debates: Medicaid expansion, the rural-urban health care divide, and the future of telemedicine, to name a few. Since 2016, the IOPL Hometown Debate Series has featured state legislators and policy experts discussing issues of state public policy. Previous series topics include constitutional amendments and education policy.

Panelists on Thursday agreed no one-size-fits-all solution exists to fix health care in N.C. There was, however, spirited debate regarding the best direction forward.

“It’s very difficult,” said Rep. Donna White, R-Johnston. “We’ve lost 28% of our primary care physicians in the state in the last two years, and a lot of those have been lost in rural areas.”

White, a registered nurse, suggested taking advantage of advanced practice registered nurses to supplement the loss in primary care physicians. APRN’s receive graduate-level training in specialized areas of medicine, qualifying them to perform some of the responsibilities traditionally reserved for medical doctors.

“We’ve been trying to work a bill through the General Assembly for several years now called the SAVE Act,” White said. “In North Carolina … we have to have other options because we cannot get enough primary care doctors.”

The SAVE Act, which stands for Safe, Accessible, Value-directed, and Excellent care, would grant full practicing authority to APRN’s in the state. They wouldn’t need doctor to supervise their work or give a formal OK before the specialized nurses could perform medical procedures.

Rep. Terry Garrison, D-Vance, and Greg Griggs, executive vice president of the N.C. Academy of Family Physicians, argued Medicaid expansion is the best way forward.

“The rural issue is more about the economics of practicing, and it really does come back to Medicaid expansion,” said Griggs. “In states that have expanded Medicaid, you’re 84% less likely to lose a rural hospital.”

Jordan Roberts, health care policy analyst for the John Locke Foundation, suggested deregulation as a potential solution.

“I think moving forward we are going to have to figure out better ways to serve rural communities, especially as more people move into urban communities,” said Roberts. “I think that’s one of the reasons why letting the market flourish [and] allowing demand to be met on its own will be important in the future.”

Griggs stressed the importance of primary care.

“There’s one thing that I think we can do better across the state, and that’s invest more in primary care,” said Griggs. “[W]e only invest about 6% of a health care dollar into primary care. Primary care can be a great way to prevent cost down the road.”


Generally, health care costs are lower for people who have a primary care physician. Primary care is almost always cheaper than seeing a specialist.

Roberts agreed with Griggs about the importance of primary care; he also addressed the decline of independent physicians in the market.

“There needs to be a balance. And when large hospital systems butt out smaller practices, they’re incorporated into that large hospital system, and the independent providers can’t really practice the way they want to anymore,” said Roberts. “When only two in five physicians are independent, it becomes a very concentrated market.”

Throughout the debate series, telemedicine was continually discussed as one way to bring more primary care to rural N.C. Panelists agreed on the importance of expanding telemedicine.

“I do believe that telehealth and telemedicine are certainly two of the tools that are in our current toolbox. We have bills going through the conference committee as we speak. We actually passed a telehealth-telemedicine bill in the house, but it’s a part of the [current] budget [bill],” said White. “I think that [telehealth and telemedicine] actually gives us more access into those rural areas where we need it most.”

But panelists acknowledged an unintended consequence: Telecare may cause problems, including overprescription of drugs.

“We can’t diagnose an ear infection or a sinus infection without … doing a physical exam,” said Griggs. “We’ve got to be careful that we don’t use telemedicine as a crutch, and all of a sudden we’re overprescribing antibiotics and we’re having more and more antibiotic resistance. … We’ve got to balance how it’s used.”

The debate was moderated by Spectrum News N.C. Senior Political Reporter Loretta Boniti.  The full-length debate is available online at spectrumlocalnews.com.

IOPL Hometown Debate Series sponsors for 2019 included the N.C. Association of Health Underwriters, Independent Insurance Agents of N.C., Blue Cross Blue Shield of North Carolina, the N.C. Rural Center, and Humana.

Established in 1988, the North Carolina Institute of Political Leadership is a nonpartisan organization, specializing in leadership training programs for public servants. 

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